was incredibly high, wasn't that more than 34500. how the city in springfield to now would move that? $70000.00, how the city and i've been in to them that didn't happen in any kind of the previous rounds of escalation. and how much is the cost to the bus, the majority of palestinians, the p. c, because we're looking to live peacefully in trying to see a vast majority of us right now have been exhausted. some good looking to tennessee or around a flight sees that through through an engine side for it now with the was it was things from us side. we have been having more, please speak to about the initiative being taken from the power sitting side. the vast majority of palestinians are waiting for the information from the is what the site in order to get to the size of a 3 minute read. how much is well, just to bring them into the 1st type of keys and to make a decision a whole minute to add that to bring nothing to the ground, the only disruption. so topic i listen to what you said. you said you've been to 5

wars, it is real. my question was have you ever seen at the, at the end of the war? and again, we, i don't know if that's what we're looking at right now, but have you ever seen at any point during those wars or after those wars or as they ended, have you ever seen the scenes like the ones we're witnessing now? yes, certainly i clearly remember every single time that there was an announcement to the end of the what we've been talking about multiple announcement being made under the same stuff from responses for our regional mediation. starts off, completely, has been playing a very contributing growing to ends and springing to end for the fighting we, every single time we see similar scenes as well, something and right now are doing celebrations of taunting full freedom, trusting for these. and that's absolutely bring us back in memory to these days that had witness for us. and so the 5 single employees,

it's tragic stories and even a tragic moment. palestinians have been going through i'm but i absolutely believe that we might witness such similar kinds of moments and announcement which is the coming days if there's one was so serious about bringing a piece, a bringing a deal to the table and accept the proposal being initiated. by the regional mediators, i'm watching the emotion people behind you. where are they going? now they are just going to their relatives informing them that thomas has a breed on the proposal. they are trying to, let's say, to spread the news among their members of the community. and right now they're just saying that it's time over time. they are trying to send it right. and you don't know the people here have been living and make chip filters which i've been on the wide military bombardment. the vast majority of most, their family relatives, their beloved ones, the friends that even a loved

a close people to the hot spot. the despite to all kinds of loss that they have been going through. they all happy again. when the 1st please hear the announcement by how my side regarding that proven news, that newspaper only what do they think about is an end for the fighting them? that's absolutely a part of the thing would be really off, a part of their own identity, that they are only looking for peace on the ground. they have been living peacefully southern to more types on the ground. big time to display some ending up right now were roughly which has been designated by the mandatory that it's going to be a safe zone. a now with the 1st system being taken by the user, the sites and they drop off the pool has reached to on for some level of disappear and even a frustration. but now this announcement has really received them that you, these fairly to optimism among palestinians who are really looking forward to seeing a proper announcements of this e smile wouldn't become of all right, sorry,

thank you so much. you've been walking this through the last 20 minutes of reaction, be spontaneous manifestations of joy and elation that we're seeing really across the gaza strip. it seems we're seeing that people walk behind you. you're in rough, of course. we saw the scenes of the locks the hospital if you are isn't watching that big. that the, the biggest window on your screen, we saw the alexa hospital that's in central gaza. and darrow bought a uh, uh, desktop right on your screen right now. and the very latest pictures in the center, so spontaneous eruption of joy across the guns, a strip where it's just us to 8 pm as palestinians learned that homos had accepted the ceasefire. deal proposed by the mediator is egypt and guitar. let's go to bernard smith in ramallah in the occupied westbank. bernard, there is still so much that we don't know right now, so many questions that are unanswered and we're going to try and go through them as the hours go by. try and get a full,

a picture of what's really happening. what do you know on your end? look at it. okay. it's a very important. it's very understandable. the and suzy awesome and excitement and relief in gaza. the bahamas has accepted the terms of, of, of a ceasefire proposal, but from me is really side there is absolutely no confirmation for that. they've accepted this proposal. and in fact from is really media a suggestion to the bit is riley. this is not a proposal. is why it will accept channel 13 is row, which is usually quite well require lively sourcing says that how much is accepted a will to down egypt. sin proposal, which is not acceptable for these. riley's not only an hour a couple of hours ago. your guidelines, israel is defense minister, was telling the families of the, of the captives. how much is, how much is the rejected a proposals so would enable us to recover the prisoners. and so it requires us to

begin an operation in rafa. and israel is military, currently, 3 thing online. it is discussing and planning. some sorts of operation in rough printed i, i want to make very, very clear to you as to what we're seeing right now. it's almost like a dual reality. see what you're describing. we are seeing the scenes of joy across the gaza strip. you would be forgiven when you watch this life shot. you could be forgiving the thinking that the war has ended. but you are telling us and reminding us we can't say that at this stage because you know, the, the other half to this negotiation is israel. and his real is not saying that they've signed on to any kind of deal with the say no is valley is not saying it's signed onto any kind of deal on the move. the indications they've been coming from these railings in the last few days is that they feel that homeless has not accepted the proposal that they have put on the table and that they are willing to

accept. we know for example, but how much have been asking for permanent and to the will i know withdrawal of israeli forces. it seems that hamas has road back on those demands is happier to take this schultz and si fi paid about 45 days in exchange for hostages and exchange for palestinian prisoners. we've not privy to the exact details of what this agreement they have signed is. but it's not what we're indications off. there's nothing officials on these riley indications on these riley media. so this is no big deal that happened with oh, you hearing anything in the occupied west. think what i mean hearing. i mean, literally hearing more people out on the street, do you see or hear any celebrations or have any reporting on that? uh no, i'm afraid. i don't. i'm just looking down to the main center of ramallah here and it's a normal evening. i know i can certainly for this. no of course, but i think it is the reward. i think it's always exciting, but it's uh, yeah,

because in the occupied west banks we would expect that they're following this just as closely as the palestinians in gaza. and i just think it's worth putting in our viewers radar for now that they are not celebrating when they are not celebrating at the moment they, as, as, as we are reading here. we want to attend to this because we have not gotten officials, riley responds, there is in about half an hour or so the usual military evening press conference. so i don't know whether these really military will have anything to say in that. that mean that's an agreement to see, so i would come from the governments i guess, but there is a shared you will event in about half an hour or so. but these riley's a not saying anything at the moment. okay, very thank you very much. we're going to come back to you very soon again. yours joining us. we're trying to understand what exactly it is that we're looking at. we see the scenes of joy and the gaza strip, which just to run with this fontaine,

this manifestation about maybe 25 minutes ago. moments after hours is a big important home. i was told alpha 0 that they had accepted a ceasefire proposal. but as bernard smith in ramallah was just telling us, the israelis happens, and in fact it is really is there sending messages to the contrary? um, let's go to hell bar as we continue to watch the scenes and gaza ash and you're, you're with us and don't, you've been following negotiations. it has felt very dicey, very up and down in the last 23 days. are you hearing anything? so basically a benz, c i a chief trouble to the highest today. yeah. we would expect to hear the announcements in the evening. then we were for the top floor extended for another dead. it was during those when, when did you hear this? that was yesterday. okay, and then the tool to extend that for today,

clear indications that there was something which is being developed developed. and then how about i said, it has agreed to the terms of the, the, of, of which is what i yet to get more details about the key elements of it. do we know it's a face that we know is face on the face on captive slash president, exchange followed by the cease fire face to the continuation of the exchange of the prisoners and 3, which is going to be well about the reconstruction. how much has been insisting until yesterday evening that will accept a deal if there is a strong guarantee that particularly from the americans and from the cumulative, that is going to be a tablet and seized by a that's a less the notion of a permanency is by a was think in the agreement,

they won't commit themselves to any analysis. what happened in between for him us to the slides. finally, they're going for this. do you understand the impression on something because i'm just getting some information is really media. this is in line with what bernard was saying is really media or reporting. that is really officials are briefing that this is not acceptable to them. all right, i'll repeat that is really media or reporting that is really officials are saying this is not acceptable to them. so again, stating the obvious for there to be a ceasefire. deal both sides need to agree to that deal, dam us, israel, i'm us has agreed we're getting early indications it is real haven't. mm hm. so until yesterday, how much will say we will that we one day we, we want a strong, international commitment. 6 it from the americas of the key media. i just got out on egypt. that is going to be a habit and seized by

a know how much came back today. things that it's 9 honey. a tube outside is of the egyptians, so they have accepted the deal. was it a different version than the one that's been floated by proposed by the egyptians? these have most trying to say here that we give the go ahead. that for these writers are not willing to to follow suit. we have to know exactly what, how much meant by we accept to the d. right. what's other terms of that deal? because he's been saying from the beginning of minus and this has been one of the red lines that any deal for them to accept would have to ultimately mean the end of the when they want to end israel's war on god and israel yesterday the day before day before that and all the days before that have been saying, no, we're not ending the warrant cause until we reach what day describe is their goals, including ending homeless and causes. so there is, there has always been these 2 red lines that you know that,

that would do there. if there isn't movement on those red lines, there can't be a deal, a thing. we have to give it, give it to the upcoming college to understand exactly what, how much needs by we've told the categories and the egypt is that we agree to the proposals about that does it means that they've got strong guarantees from the keep . the data is cuts out in particular, the gypsies that as soon as they say yes, they've guarantee that during the 3 phases of the agreement, there would be no breach of the seas via we don't know. we are yet to hear from the mediators. but i have to say, i really don't get strong indications is yesterday that we're talking about we'll break through the elements. i'm not that in terms of the for, for races, for

a major. that was us. this is not the way and us and you're still not getting no indication. i'll tell you. for me, a strong indication is when the cuts out is come out. i'd say publicly, there is a deep and they have not yet. because this is exactly what to remind all of us like november last november when they thought he's managed to narrow the differences along with egypt is to it how much that is, where the announcements came out from here from don't have enough press up by the ministry all flooded enough this. what we have sofa is this and now some in significant, and that was meant by how much space, despite how many of the leads of the political view of things that they've been in touch with. about 5 minutes this the study on egypt in 1000 cheap uh, best company who's been very instrumental in putting together the egyptian version

of that green until the, all the proposals i was given to hand us initially with highly that how ya was that? what do they mean by was said, we agree to the terms of that agreement. one more just one more before i go to alan fisher, who's standing by in washington dc. and has there been a point since november? have we ever hit a point that sounds like this one feels like this once in november because i don't, i don't think though, no, it almost has never said we agree, right? it was there was a, it was a, was it the was, i mean pass. yeah. you talk to how much you talk to the tv data is there's never been an indication that we are so close to that break through. over the last few days, they were talking about significant progress or pro risk. as far as the tools are concerned, how one of these writers didn't send a delegation to cover and they say,

i chief how to travel to don't meet, consolidate officials of this is when the categories when sign is. so it's is when you say it is today and, and, and today you say these really didn't send a delegation to cairo, is that matters why? because if we're getting super close to the deal that went into delegation, we inc. agreements prior to the official announcements, which usually, unless the next to this is why the media comes from the key me data is gotta an egypt just, i'm trying to look into the details of the agreement that was passed by that it liked the value that was exactly how it was implemented. why? because it was so slow july and the differences was all we were always wise is we have most of these val i so remember we went to the press conference and we will tools in 2 hours from now you will hear a major announcement. it was delayed by the next couple hours and then we learned that even when they were almost there,

they had to make voltage. you have to go through these bodies. the said no. they went to how much they said no. and the madison out of the defenses is from us as we agreed to a deal. that means the i'm us is leader authoration the leader in the gaza strip. yes. yes. anyone who presumably has been it is believed typing in a tunnel for the last 7 months. that means he would have had to give his go ahead, correct data to these categories. and without his, they still would never come. you need lots of relief from the political view just to aligned our view as much as a movement that was established in the eighty's by shift i am. as you see, went through major transformation in 2017 decided to have 2 entities. they political view of faith in here. now we know how this is some whole, some sort of the go a must go when it comes to dealing with any issues related to gaza and how much in particular and

a leadership phase in the gaza met by 3 key players. yes, yes, it was the most powerful 9 me the talk me to, to canada model based. and by the one a $74.00 is not in any of the lead of the police could be able to come in this announcement. say, i've spoken with the capacities of egypt, as i said, yes, i agree. it is that education that has to be in touch with the guys as a got to find the information from you here. so when is that when it's over, quite a significant deal of all of it. now, there are 2 things here. we have to be very careful about it. do they say they agree with the agree to the terms of us or of of a deed, without strong indications of us seized by a fabulous, seized by a this is a major concession by have us, but we don't know did the agree to the terms of

a draft proposal that was presented to the of the last minute without being seen by is right. i doubt it because normally this is another way it goes to give you an idea about so i thought of egypt, they talked to how about us and to these matters, the float general ideas. so, you know, you're describing how this, how this works. yeah. in broad terms, then the gauge on which way the wind is blowing and with the sense that there is a foot 10, so full come on ground here. these thoughts flushing all the details of that because they do understand that these options, you know, way it wouldn't be a waste of time to go to how much insight do you agree on this without knowing that the other sponsor would say no. because then you have to go back to square one and start from scratch. and this thought building goes, that's initial consensus to,

to get to the point where you finally inc, an agreement. and then you analysis and the how to tell you something. the categories of very much focused on the detail you talk to them about that ground in so when the agreement they would say listen, we all the new dates that we have to make sure that the school moving never said those, those details that they know that the recommendation is at stake as like a mediator. the very conservative is the approach that approaching the sense that they would never go into an announcement unless they know that both parties into the agreement signed it. go back to the tardies and say, go ahead for the time being. i can see those live pictures from gaza and the joy of the people desperate for a way out after the 7 months of relentless bombardment. but i have to say,

i would be moving ashore tonight if i get the statements from one of the key dates of egypt for cutoff. yeah, saying yes, there is a d, as we speak when i get to hear from them. let's see if we can hear something from washington. dc across to alpha 0 is alan fisher, who's just outside the white house. allen, i think you heard and you knew that right now we don't have confirmation that there is a deal in place either from either of the 2 main mediators, guitar or egypt. are you learning? hearing anything at all on your read, you might find out something more than about an hour's time when there is the usual white house press briefing. c we know that john car be who is the spokesman for the national security council will be at the roofing that that was arranged at la today . so there may be some update because of course, william burns is the head of a c. i a has played an important part. in fact, he was entitled over the weekend he has been in,

could talk this monday and he has been involved in those discussions. but how seems right, we've had no confirmation from the united states. we know that job i useful to benjamin netanyahu within the last couple of hours, they had a conversation about events ongoing. and one of the things that was raised was that job, i updated benjamin netanyahu, and what was described as talks to secure the hostages release. it was simply describe as an update, and that would, of course incorporate william buttons have been doing over the last 4872 hours in the middle east. i want the prospect swear for some sort of deal. also here in washington, they were talking about how it is really it seems to be planning to move into rafa and to bite and on that. busy with benjamin netanyahu expressed this consent again, disposition, clear, and of course, he said it would be a mistake unless there was a very clear, applied decatur for those who are not involved in the conflict,

but has to be moved away from that area because it's estimated, there's 1.51.6000000 people just in rough uh alone and to bite. and it said that any sort of operation there could cause i came out of the tv catastrophe. people were suggesting that these really were getting a degree of frankenship that they were suggesting that they move into rafa to try and for some us as a. so if that was the case, if that was the intention, this me well, what if, as we're kidding, how much has accepted this these quite a deal for the course? was that a long way from confirmation from either the egyptian, the tardies, the mediators, or anything is told here from the white coast, it gives us concrete evidence that there is something in place in something that can be worked on in the coming of alan, something i've been hearing over the last few days, you know, as these to sign a go, sions would be the heating up is the pressure is increasing on both sides. pressure

is increasing on how much pressure is increasingly is real and, and pressure primarily coming from the united states. and then through the mediators, are you able to explain to us what kind of pressure, right? because the u. s. has been in this mix for months, so when we say they're putting a lot more pressure to get a deal now done. now, what does that mean? a man, what pressure would be my my answer to that. i mean we've been hearing from october, november, december that the families that are under pressure to make this a quick operation to be done just at lee in the new year. here we are, it's the beginning of may, what pressure of these really is under when we hear that the united states may consider sending the aid and the support that it gives to israel. if we don't do more to get it across the board to, to make sure that there's a humanity and effort in guys up for those who caught up in the fight take, what are we seeing? they're very, very little. what pressure is they have from the united states when they say

they're concerned that the ongoing depths of 8, what code is there? there's the possibility that the united states could take action. what have we seen? so the, the israel has made it very clear, very edlio, and that they will listen to that allies like the united states. there will be consultation that has been another call between the 2 defense minister from authentic and here in washington, dc. i, i'm the with, you'll go out and in israel i have been these ongoing discussions, but these really so said you can talk to was the way the c foot. i won't be with listening to that i life, it whole, dictate how the economy, these things are. so there may be an element of public pressure on these, at least with the proof test that we've seen. but these really subset all alone, but they will do what they want to do. they will do what they think they need to do and whether the us express is concerned or anger. it's made no difference at all. so the way these really conducted this more now is that you're reporting from just

outside the white house. thank you very much. we will keep crossing back to you, ellen. anything you hear any movement at all on your end, you will keep the surprise of those developments. i go now to alone. leah, the former director general of israel's ministry of foreign affairs. so you are joining a slide from telling me thank you for being us for being on the program. i have to ask you 1st and foremost, what you're hearing on the is really side. is there or is there not an agreement to the ceasefire deal? do you have information on that with you? is it clean? what you hear a day from us is come on. so, i mean, but i see there was so much information as so much faith news as so many scenes that we really believe that the trip ends on the 1st postage as we're waiting common across these. very good. okay. as you speak,

we have 2 other windows running with either the live shot in the main screen here. the biggest window on our screen for viewers is the live shot of a lot of northern and northern guys. if i yes, that's right. northern gaza. the screen top right, we have rough, uh, people are celebrating to just put it simply, people are celebrating like it's the end of the war. and who clearly, we don't know if that is the case. so what i'd like to ask you is your read on this present moment on this particular moment in time. what do you think is happening right now? is this the, the statutory, the if you only see the that you have you speak the pressure on this side. but you see the pressure phone is a very strong pressure on this thing needs to be process

so easily. government space as a to we we this way so to keep the national format. so you decision 3, huge cleanings. and so the, this is this linda, this the, the one been seeing here. there's a really see the people and even i don't think you'd be doing the best. so then what he was very, very different is in the image. we believe we will be right. we will still or the disease you sir, is the key for is pretty understandable. that the move will be different in israel and guns are 34000 and palestinians have been killed. there are strikes every day

just just before this news. we were reporting that 52 fantasies have been killed in gaza. people have been displaced countless times. they are afraid for their lives to live with their relatives. i think that explains, that's what explains, you know, why people are celebrating when they have been limited. i must explain to each no, there is a bit of thousands of these ways. the movable big hole. yes. yes, all right, so i'm explaining to you, the reason is in this living bubbly, but if we do not believe that we lost the will, we can come us, they listen to it. so it's a, it's, it's the exact same day after the, the easy after the, we have the, we have the world with us. the, we lose the,

this is the, you know, is facing. tell us more about his political calculus because there's a, there's a deal on the table from us has accepted it. this increases the pressure and i, i'm, i'm cognizant of what you told us about the pressure, right? is the pressure from outside, but it's also the pressure from inside israel. this increases the pressure on netanyahu, doesn't it to, to, to decide what he's going to do one way or another because he's got the right wing in his government that have said in the last few days, if he accepts a deal that prevents us from going into rafa we will bring down his government, but on the other hand, he has in his war cabinet veney gans and the national unity party that says he, if there is a deal on the table that would allow for the release of hostages, he has got to take it so he's got these 2 competing forces buried by the right we use this will go a live.